Discussion in 'Unmoderated' started by Henchman 21, May 11, 2013.
I pick up some messages about different things but do you guys have any other theories about this?
I like songs.
Ok here goes nothing
It's ambiguous, so it is whatever you make out of it. It's like that because it's surreal art.
Notice how the very beginning and very end are the same, where all the characters are just sitting around doing nothing. This could imply they are in some kind of purgatory or hell. The video begins with nothing, and ends with nothing.
The notebook comes along and tells them to start looking at what is really around them instead of accepting the fate of purgatory so lightly, so the notebook tells them to be creative with their environment, which they do eventually follow along with.
when the yellow guy makes the clown picture the notebook doesn't approve of it, and tells him to slow down, where as black ink falls down on the painting. I think it's because the notebook doesn't want the yellow guy to get too into it, because then he might come to realize just how bad his fate is.
The notebook doesn't want the color green, but the colors she does give are blue (tears) tan (skin) black (darkness) red (blood) and yellow (possibly fire?) but not green, because green is a color that usually indicates safety or good things, which none of this mess is.
"Listen to your heart, listen to the rain, listen to the voices in your brain"
She's now telling them to realize what their fate is, by listening to their heart (themselves) the rain (the torment of the fate) and the voices (self guilt)
Notice before the gibberish the yellow guyn makes something similar to a woman's dress.
Notice the red guy is sprinkling pink sparkles
Notice the bird guy just puts the letter D
If you pause after the screen spins in 3D, all three of them are no longer puppets, but people in costumes. This is to show that they realize they are human. The yellow guy actually turns into a woman, meaning that whatever he did involved lust, so we can conclude that about him. The Red guy throughout the gibberish is playing with a heart, which i think symbolizes that he let people down and broke their hearts. The yellow guy (or girl) is making a big mess, which is probably what he/she did, based on lust reasons. The black bird spells out death, meaning he probably killed someone.
Before the rain, the yellow guy is dancing, but once the rain starts all 3 start dancing. The mouse hole drags in meat, creating a scene of chaos and fear. When they take off a slice of the gut cake, they all pretend like it's real cake, but in this vision we realize they are fooled by the purgatory into believing whatever they want to, and the notebook opened that truth up to them.
Notice how the transition back into the original version is rough, that's because it's the same thing only in different light. All the puppets looks sad because they realized what they did to deserve this, and after a long time will forget again, and then the notebook will come back, and do the same thing over and over and over again.
Long explanation cause lol
Euh. I really doubt Siesan's theory. It's extreme simplicity here.
Society's views of what is acceptable of creativity.
The notebook represents society's norms because:
1.) Repeatedly tells them what they're doing is incorrect, and their way is right.
2.) When it tells them to look at the clouds, it places the magnifying glass over it's own eye rather than the clouds.
3.) It tells them to show their own creativity, to give them a glance at what happens when they do this, when it all goes to hell the notebook tells them "let's never be creative again" and follow along with what is set as 'correct'.
1.) The notepad blotting out what it deemed unacceptable.
2.) The yellow puppet seems to be the most rejected by the notepad, and at the end is the only one of the three that gets an entirely new look, Seemingly being replaced by something more acceptable. You'll notice when the new version of the yellow puppet is there, it is dancing erratically while the other two watch in confusion, a few jump cuts, and then all of the puppets are dancing erratically. Showing an injection to provide an acceptable boundary to follow, and the rest of the people will fall in line with it, accepting it as inevitability.
I cant even.
I can see how this could be hell. I mean, look at it.
Dem puppets are a bad omen, always have been.
I've already seen that, but he does have pretty good theories.
What I got from it was that it's all a representation of how media shows things to children. They tell them to be creative and fun, but only the way they want them to. Anything extra is not allowed. Green is NOT a creative color, because it wasn't on the color wheel that the notepad showed him. After all of this, it zooms out to the CGI to show that it's all fake and they aren't really doing what they want; it's just a hollywood set. Then they start going crazy and the cake filled with organs represents the fact that people nowadays just gobble up the media without questioning it. It may look nice (like cake) on the inside, but there's really darkness inside.
11/10 Hug me brotha.
If you look closely at Notepad's hair, you'll see there is some green which contradicts what it says later about green not being a creative color.
I like Siesan's but drake and colt's theories are more realistic.
Oh dear god help me
Here's what I got.
The scene opens with no music and pictures of an airplane on a pillow, a magazine, some items on a shelf, a calendar with the date June 19, knives, a kitchen stove, and a radio next to a window. I'm going to discard some of these and start with a little analysis from what I can work with:
Charlie Chapman's final speech from The Great Dictator is widely considered one of the greatest deliveries and messages in human history. In the 4-minute speech he says
and goes on to explain why love and freedom, rather than science and rationality, is required for mankind's success. On June 19, 1862, legislation was signed by Abe Lincoln to prohibit slavery in all US land; I will return to this fact later. The title of the magazine (“The Right Wing”) represents conservatism, which stands for traditional social values and moral constants. The knives might mean something (as a lot of analysts suggest), but until I'm convinced I assume they are there to serve as a subconsciously unsettling anomaly in what seems to be an innocent children's cartoon.
The first three characters – I’m calling them Mop, Bert and Bird for simplicity's sake – are sitting at a table, feeling bored. If we take those three to represent humanity, the Notebook and her messages make sense. Think of the Notebook as a radical new group of ideas. Before she arrived, humanity was at a stalling state – existing, but not thriving. The Notebook, resting on the table the whole time, suddenly springs to life with an idea (think creatively). At first the idea is outright rejected, but gradually gains acceptance with the Notebook’s persistent positive regard. Once it’s taken root, “using your mind” quickly spins out of control.
The next phase reveals the Notebook to be rather narrow-minded in its view of using thought. She shows the other characters that clouds can be things besides clouds. But in holding the magnifying glass to her own eye only, only her view is shown. The characters chant in unison despite it not being their idea—and thus, in defiance of creativity. When Bert draws a clown, he is shunned for going too fast. Claiming “green is not a creative color” is arbitrarily rejecting the creativity of others. Green symbolizes growth and progress, paradoxical in the fact that the Notebook seemingly ushered in a newer, better way of thinking. “Listen to your heart, listen to the rain, listen to the voices in your brain” echoes the beliefs of rationalist thinkers like Plato and Descartes, that human intuition is more reliable than nature and science. Plato and Descartes are often criticized for their call for both free thinking above society and self-righteousness in their own beliefs.
The chaotic, scary scene that follows shows Mop, Bert and Bird taking their creativity too far. The screen pans around the room, showing the characters to be merely actors on a stage, puppets to some higher system. The human heart is defaced and eventually consumed by the mouse hole; death takes over. The characters seem to be happy during all this, but collectively come to the realization that they have taken it too far.
This entire video is a critique of rationalist philosophy. By accepting truth to be what is in their hearts rather than science, the characters take their creativity too far and come to realize that the truth, through rationality, can be fearsome and harmful. Freedom from this mindset (back to the mention of June 19) and acceptance of empiricism is the right way. When the Notebook ends with "Now let’s all agree to never be creative again" she is suggesting that the characters accept the world for its face value. A cloud is a cloud, not a cat. The end conclusion is that rationalism is harmful to society.
- OR -
There really is no meaning, and the Youtuber is laughing at everyone who make these deep philosophical analyses.
May as well.
Or the author wants to show that freedom of thinking and creativity =/= libertinage.
The same notebook denying the color green and the painting, it like saying "yeah, free thinking! but remember, this is my idea. only I know how to do it"
Then the line "listen to the voices in your brain" soon they give into madness and, or go their own ways. (one even has a gender change or something.)
And finally after witnessing the chaos that has become of something as simple as "creativity" the notebook resigns, and so do the others. possibly until another "notebook/innovator" steps in and starts over again.
I just thought it was some weird shit
It is, but Weird shit can mean things too... or not
"listen to the voices in your brain"
This line, when i heard it I knew something wrong was going on.
In the part of "let's never be creative again" for me it was like:
Okay everything went wrong, you can't handle it, don't do it never again.
I think it's like god giving us free will, but our mind(voices in the brain) just distorted it.
Lots of great theories. Ready for round 2?
I'm stumped with this one
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